Comments on: Chapter III: Ganglion Ministries http://evangellyfish.com/chapter-iii-ganglion-ministries/ New chapters posted regularly. Tue, 06 Jan 2009 00:30:33 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Kate http://evangellyfish.com/chapter-iii-ganglion-ministries/#comment-271 Kate Tue, 16 Sep 2008 03:49:23 +0000 http://evangellyfish.com/?p=10#comment-271 quote: "1) Great story. When you called junipers the orcs of the plant kingdom, you spoke to my soul." Agree 100%! The other line that got me... “We must have missed the Victoria’s Secret. I was going to pick up a little something for the wife. Make up for that radio station business. Lacy things can avert divorce.” “Or get you one, depending on who they’re on. But I doubt your wife would want anything with a Jesus fish on it.” I literally laughed out loud. I started reading just the blog, for perspective on the political campaign. I clicked the link for the novel, not realizing what I was getting myself in for. This is the best contemporary Christian fiction I've read since the "Mitford" series by Jan Karon. And it's more entertaining! quote: “1) Great story. When you called junipers the orcs of the plant kingdom, you spoke to my soul.” Agree 100%!

The other line that got me…
“We must have missed the Victoria’s Secret. I was going to pick up a little something for the wife. Make up for that radio station business. Lacy things can avert divorce.”

“Or get you one, depending on who they’re on. But I doubt your wife would want anything with a Jesus fish on it.”

I literally laughed out loud. I started reading just the blog, for perspective on the political campaign. I clicked the link for the novel, not realizing what I was getting myself in for. This is the best contemporary Christian fiction I’ve read since the “Mitford” series by Jan Karon. And it’s more entertaining!

]]> By: lewsta http://evangellyfish.com/chapter-iii-ganglion-ministries/#comment-110 lewsta Mon, 11 Aug 2008 06:01:11 +0000 http://evangellyfish.com/?p=10#comment-110 Regarding the lawyers and criminal prosecution: just assume they have on retainer a bank of solicitors of the same calibre of character as themselves. In this circumstance, the highly paid professionals could be quite content to advise them slightly amiss, realising if they muck it up too badly they'd simply incur more fees in shoveling it away. And as to the criminal aspects, again, the chronology is not crystal clear, but this "offense" did take place some ten years past, at which time the accusor may well have been underage, at which point there certainly would be charges laid for involvement with a minor. This was the crux of the scandal with the Catholic clergy and their misdirected passions. Additionally, some states (at least prior to Lawrence vs Texas, SCOTUS) had laws on their ledgers making even mutually consenting sodomy a crime. We simply do not have all the blanks filled in as yet. But I've little doubt we will before the final tittle is writ. Regarding the lawyers and criminal prosecution: just assume they have on retainer a bank of solicitors of the same calibre of character as themselves. In this circumstance, the highly paid professionals could be quite content to advise them slightly amiss, realising if they muck it up too badly they’d simply incur more fees in shoveling it away. And as to the criminal aspects, again, the chronology is not crystal clear, but this “offense” did take place some ten years past, at which time the accusor may well have been underage, at which point there certainly would be charges laid for involvement with a minor. This was the crux of the scandal with the Catholic clergy and their misdirected passions. Additionally, some states (at least prior to Lawrence vs Texas, SCOTUS) had laws on their ledgers making even mutually consenting sodomy a crime. We simply do not have all the blanks filled in as yet. But I’ve little doubt we will before the final tittle is writ.

]]> By: Greg Dickison http://evangellyfish.com/chapter-iii-ganglion-ministries/#comment-97 Greg Dickison Tue, 05 Aug 2008 05:02:42 +0000 http://evangellyfish.com/?p=10#comment-97 1) Great story. When you called junipers the orcs of the plant kingdom, you spoke to my soul. 2) I'm with Christopher Witmer on the attorney thing. I would think that Camel Creek hires top dollar attorneys, and they would not want Lester to talk to the cops alone. The hubris angle isn't clear, since it was apparently the attorneys' idea that they not be present. 3) Why are detectives and a prosecutor involved, anyway? I don't know of any jurisdiction where pastoral sexual abuse is a crime. What are they investigating? 1) Great story. When you called junipers the orcs of the plant kingdom, you spoke to my soul.

2) I’m with Christopher Witmer on the attorney thing. I would think that Camel Creek hires top dollar attorneys, and they would not want Lester to talk to the cops alone. The hubris angle isn’t clear, since it was apparently the attorneys’ idea that they not be present.

3) Why are detectives and a prosecutor involved, anyway? I don’t know of any jurisdiction where pastoral sexual abuse is a crime. What are they investigating?

]]> By: Doug Wicks http://evangellyfish.com/chapter-iii-ganglion-ministries/#comment-80 Doug Wicks Mon, 04 Aug 2008 06:59:53 +0000 http://evangellyfish.com/?p=10#comment-80 I was hooked after the first chapter, but I found chapters two and three to be slimy. I didn’t enjoy the amount of sordid — and frankly unbelievable — information. Doug is certainly a gifted writer — funny, easy to read, clever, and very insightful, both here and elsewhere. And while I love the self-talk of the secretary, the detective characters, John Mitchell the ‘other’ struggling pastor, my criticism is with the believability factor, specifically the unrealistic hyper-caricature of a mega-church. I realize that — with me living in Africa and all — I’m ignorant to the American church ‘world’ in many respects. But I can’t believe that I am also that naïve. It is certainly conceivable that one could identify churches that have some of these ugly features. But it is inconceivable that a single church body is characterized by them all. And when a story becomes unbelievable, I become disinterested. So I have, albeit reluctantly, all but given up connecting with the story. While I’m sure pastors like Chad Lester exist in our world, I cannot (won’t?) believe that they are surrounded on all sides by moral bankruptcy. I was hooked after the first chapter, but I found chapters two and three to be slimy. I didn’t enjoy the amount of sordid — and frankly unbelievable — information.
Doug is certainly a gifted writer — funny, easy to read, clever, and very insightful, both here and elsewhere. And while I love the self-talk of the secretary, the detective characters, John Mitchell the ‘other’ struggling pastor, my criticism is with the believability factor, specifically the unrealistic hyper-caricature of a mega-church.
I realize that — with me living in Africa and all — I’m ignorant to the American church ‘world’ in many respects. But I can’t believe that I am also that naïve. It is certainly conceivable that one could identify churches that have some of these ugly features. But it is inconceivable that a single church body is characterized by them all. And when a story becomes unbelievable, I become disinterested.
So I have, albeit reluctantly, all but given up connecting with the story. While I’m sure pastors like Chad Lester exist in our world, I cannot (won’t?) believe that they are surrounded on all sides by moral bankruptcy.

]]> By: Desmond http://evangellyfish.com/chapter-iii-ganglion-ministries/#comment-78 Desmond Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:45:13 +0000 http://evangellyfish.com/?p=10#comment-78 Satin Stomppers sound much more comfortable and less trailer-trash than the Satan variety, although they are probably quite dangerous on shiny hardwood floors. Satin Stomppers sound much more comfortable and less trailer-trash than the Satan variety, although they are probably quite dangerous on shiny hardwood floors.

]]> By: Crystal http://evangellyfish.com/chapter-iii-ganglion-ministries/#comment-75 Crystal Tue, 29 Jul 2008 02:24:59 +0000 http://evangellyfish.com/?p=10#comment-75 That would be "Satan Stomppers"!! That would be “Satan Stomppers”!!

]]> By: Crystal http://evangellyfish.com/chapter-iii-ganglion-ministries/#comment-74 Crystal Tue, 29 Jul 2008 02:23:09 +0000 http://evangellyfish.com/?p=10#comment-74 I am really enjoying this read and I find myself excited when the beginning of the week comes. However, I am a bit wrung out by the time I am done reading it. what a mess....does anyone have a pack of super sized "satin stompper socks" to clean this up with????? NO?? Me neither! Keep it coming and I will see if I can't get my hands on "The Masters Mops". That really ought to do the job. They are said to be "Good for even your worst sinners, I mean stains." Wait, I think I am confusing it with the "Cleansing Spiritualizer" stain stick. I don't think the "Masters Mops" will take out stains. Well at the very least I think it would be wise to ware our "Agape Aprons" next time we read this splatter of a situation. Mine is white with a picture of my "Man" on it,(you know, Jesus.) I made it myself and I sell them for only $59.99 Pray if you want one and God will let me know your info. :) Peace out! I am really enjoying this read and I find myself excited when the beginning of the week comes. However, I am a bit wrung out by the time I am done reading it. what a mess….does anyone have a pack of super sized “satin stompper socks” to clean this up with????? NO?? Me neither!
Keep it coming and I will see if I can’t get my hands on “The Masters Mops”. That really ought to do the job. They are said to be “Good for even your worst sinners, I mean stains.” Wait, I think I am confusing it with the “Cleansing Spiritualizer” stain stick. I don’t think the “Masters Mops” will take out stains.

Well at the very least I think it would be wise to ware our “Agape Aprons” next time we read this splatter of a situation. Mine is white with a picture of my “Man” on it,(you know, Jesus.) I made it myself and I sell them for only $59.99 Pray if you want one and God will let me know your info. :) Peace out!

]]> By: Dan Phillips http://evangellyfish.com/chapter-iii-ganglion-ministries/#comment-73 Dan Phillips Mon, 28 Jul 2008 20:29:46 +0000 http://evangellyfish.com/?p=10#comment-73 “Is Chad Pastor Lester?” Bradford asked. An unbeliever would probably say "Reverend Lester." “Is Chad Pastor Lester?” Bradford asked.

An unbeliever would probably say “Reverend Lester.”

]]> By: Chuck Shanks http://evangellyfish.com/chapter-iii-ganglion-ministries/#comment-71 Chuck Shanks Mon, 28 Jul 2008 14:45:25 +0000 http://evangellyfish.com/?p=10#comment-71 Re: "Miguel Smith... Got his CPA in night classes, and was, taking one thing with another, an industrious and robust character..." Maybe this is a minor point, but CPAs are not earned in night classes. An accounting degree may be earned in night classes. The "CPA" is a certification, not a degree. Great reading! Re: “Miguel Smith… Got his CPA in night classes, and was, taking one thing with another, an industrious and robust character…”

Maybe this is a minor point, but CPAs are not earned in night classes. An accounting degree may be earned in night classes. The “CPA” is a certification, not a degree.

Great reading!

]]> By: Suzannah http://evangellyfish.com/chapter-iii-ganglion-ministries/#comment-69 Suzannah Mon, 28 Jul 2008 03:02:01 +0000 http://evangellyfish.com/?p=10#comment-69 You had me at "And that’s if I have to do any weed whacking around the Holy Mother." Snorfle. You had me at “And that’s if I have to do any weed whacking around the Holy Mother.” Snorfle.

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